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Is 2019 the year?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:02 am
by jscll
Screamscape has a snippet which appears to be from BRM Associates Inc, an architect and design firm with witch Dorney Park has done business with before.
So, is this the year?

Re: Is 2019 the year?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:32 pm
by Yoshi
I am going to be cautiously optimistic. There are all kind of rumors of what it could be, a GCI, family invert or something else. The park is long overdue for a new coaster.

Re: Is 2019 the year?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:43 pm
by jscll
I think we can safely rule out a family invert. Merlin's Mayhem has a length of 1,300 feet. The coaster depicted in the image has a two dimensional length approximately 3,260 feet. To get this number, I overlayed the image in google earth, scaled it, and measured. If anyone wants the overlay I have included it below. (You will need to have Google Earth installed to view.) Of course this does not include the vertical length of the track, but it gives us a ballpark figure.

For comparison, here are the lengths of GCI's owned by Cedar Fair:
Mystic Timbers ----- 3,265 ft Kings Island
Gold Striker --------- 3,197 ft California's Great America
Renegade ------------ 3,113 ft Valleyfair!
Prowler --------------- 3,074 ft Worlds of Fun
At Hershey Park:
Lightning Racer ----- 3,393 ft (per track)
Wildcat --------------- 3,183 ft

Re: Is 2019 the year?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:06 am
by Yoshi
Very informative, thanks for the detailed post :)

Unfortunately, now Screamscape is posting that the leaked image was fake. On TPR, someone posted this ( ... start=4490 ):
Spoke with Mike Fehnel over the holiday and the leaked ride layout is a fake. While the park has "exciting" plans for that portion of the park, this is all a well done hoax. Dinosaurs is nearly extinct (we knew this) and there will be a focus on upgrading existing attractions in the water park.

Even though WWK could use some new additions, I hope that doesn't mean no coaster in 2019.

Re: Is 2019 the year?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:22 am
by jscll
Is it not the job of the GM to say anything not announced is not true? If the image is a hoax, it is really an elaborate one. Whoever drew the layout (either prankster or engineer) took the following ordinance into account:
(ii) Fall Zone. Notwithstanding any other provision of this ordinance, the height of any future
Commercial Amusement shall be less than the distance from such amusement to the nearest
residential Lot Line or public road.

When I say take into account, what I really mean is the image depicts the coaster being one hundred feet from the road, which would allow the lift to be one hundred feet tall, which is a completely reasonable height for a GCI.

On a post on TPR, someone stated the turning radius was inconsistent in the image and there was no track paralleling itself. I find it interesting that InvadR At Busch Gardens Williamsburg also has no track paralleling itself and a helix with a very inconsistent radius. (InvadR also has no seat belts, but we will not see that on any Cedar Fair owned GCI anytime in the near future.),-76.6492798,160m/data=!3m1!1e3

It is also interesting to note that whoever designed the layout decided to make it go over Zephyr's tracks multiple times, which GCI did with InvadR. (Anyway, Zephyr's tracks can easily be shifted, Dorney Park has done it before.)
I am not convinced the firm I mentioned before is behind these documents. If the name Barry Isett & Associates, Inc. was on the document, it would give it a lot of credibility points as Dorney Park is a major client of theirs.
It would be smart for me to wait until fall and see if anything happens, but we both know I won't do that.

Re: Is 2019 the year?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:44 pm
by jscll
There is currently construction going on around Urgent Scare. The barriers allow access to the restrooms, but no further. The only piece of equipment that was visible was a cherry picker. For all I know, this may just be a little cosmetic work for the haunts facade, though I hope I am wrong on that one.

Re: Is 2019 the year?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:09 pm
by dorneydude
Re: Is 2019 the year?


It seems real estate is being taken for a dorm tho. Was cedar crest charging that much that this became worthwhile?

oh well...

Re: Is 2019 the year?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:28 pm
by Steelforceguy
Ha! No it doesn’t seem like 2019 will be the year unless it’s when they will finally announce a new coaster for 2021! :mrgreen:

Happy New Year everyone!

Re: Is 2019 the year?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:29 pm
by dorneyparkrules The operating schedule is now posted
Few things I saw,
waterpark now opens at 10:30am everyday (no more 11am)
No 1am Haunts closing :(
9pm park closing in June

Re: Is 2019 the year?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:09 pm
by Yoshi
I'm glad to see WWK is open until at least 7:00 every day. I hated the 6:00 closings.

I was hoping to see WWK open on the Tuesday - Thursday after Memorial Day and possibly opening before Memorial Day.

Re: Is 2019 the year?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:39 pm
by dorneydude
Remember when we were disappointed when it closed at 8pm! I still remember running over to meet the wife and kids to have a couple of hours after work on a weeknight, especially at the end of the season.

Anyway, was it my imagination or were season pass pricing quite a bit lower at the end of last season? Perhaps that will improve business. Otherwise, potential revenue may come from the fact the dp is getting to be a pretty cheap park to go to. Only because others are getting pricier. Of course they are actually adding attractions too. It is no longer in the same league as HP...but HP's prices are now way up there. I'd still take Knoebels over DP at my age with no kids...but its a bit of a drive.

Re: Is 2019 the year?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:25 pm
by djw44
It will pretty much shock me if anything is ever built at the park again. Even if it is a flat.